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  • Started 10 months ago by Tyler Darling
  • Latest reply from MorganBell

  1. Tyler Darling
    Tyler Darling
    (663 Posts)

    PEOPLE

    BEEN TOO LONG

    BACK IN A BIG WAY

    Let's get back at it. Hope everyone is still out there. Doing good?

    I know some of you cats have been attending lots of shows recently, and man do they sound good. What is everyone's thoughts on having a show opener like Do I Have to Talk You Into It? As far as I can remember it's a first for spoon. Lots of bands do it, aside from having identical sets night after night. But this is a show opener friends!

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    MorganBell
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    I love it as an opener. It’s nice to have that 2 minutes of Alex leading in with the synth to get the crowd into it. Maybe it’s because I’ve seen this tour a lot, but I do feel like they need to mix more of the catalog into the sets. I know they have to play the new record, but it’d be super fun to hear them reach back into the catalog and pull out an odd track (though it would probably just encourage screwballs like me to see more shows). I know they have Gerardo and he isn’t as familiar with the catalog, not to mention Alex is still relatively new. I’d just like to see them progress to one of these live bands like Pearl Jam or Radioheaded where they rehearse 70 songs before a tour and just mix the fuck out of it. But, I digress. They’re better than ever right now. I’m sure the live show will only get better. AND I hear they’ve added a few covers to the set since I saw them last.

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  3. Tyler Darling
    Tyler Darling
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    Yeah I know it’s tough for bands to really please everyone. With spoon having so many great songs they’d have to do a 4 hr show to truly satisfy me haha. I’d love to hear I Could Be Underground live. With new outro and go into another song or something. That will just never happen though. I’d like to see them on this tour it just seems they won’t be in remotely close proximity anytime soon for me. But they could always add more dates. We will see.

    @MorganBell Also are you Morganyuerism on instagram? I was assuming?

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  4. Tyler Darling
    Tyler Darling
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    Yeah I know it’s tough for bands to really please everyone. With spoon having so many great songs they’d have to do a 4 hr show to truly satisfy me haha. I’d love to hear I Could Be Underground live. With new outro and go into another song or something. That will just never happen though. I’d like to see them on this tour it just seems they won’t be in remotely close proximity anytime soon for me. But they could always add more dates. We will see.

    @MorganBell Also are you Morganyuerism on instagram? I was assuming?

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    MorganBell
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    Tyler, that is indeed me! And, I’m with you. The 4 hour show would be the best moment of my life..

    But, dude. You should take a weekend and travel to catch this tour. It’s outstanding. They even do some variations here and there. Moreover, it’s really fun to watch Britt and the boys interact on stage. I loved Eric, but I’m not missing him.

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  6. 31starbright
    31starbright
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    I feel like they've gotten complacent with their setlist. I get that "Do I Have to Talk You Into It" sounds great as an opener but does it have to be every night? I think "Hot Thoughts" would sound great as opening song too. In a perfect world I would want "First Caress" to start the show but I don't think I'll ever get to hear that song live again.

    When they were touring with Transference, they would usually start with "Before Destruction," "I Saw the Light" or "Nobody Gets Me But You." They never played the same song to start the show every night. With the They Want My Soul tour there wasn't as much variety but there were some shows we'd get a few older gems in there too.

    Does anyone remember this article a while back about Spoon setlists, when Britt used to write them out? http://www.vulture.com/2010/03/spoon_explains_how_the_band_bu.html I miss this.

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    jennyjenjen
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    Ugh, Renee, I am so with you on wanting to hear First Caress. I love that song and I am sad I didn't get to see it live!

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  8. Tyler Darling
    Tyler Darling
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    Yeah I remember them writing the sets out each night? But there is still variety, like not same songs in a row every night. Some bands, a lot of big ones, have identical sets. I like them starting with a song as like an opening theme. I'd also assume it's just going to be for this tour cycle. But some bands will play the same opener for like 10 years straight, so I dunno I can definitely see them changing it up.

    Also I did not know they will no longer play First Caress live? I do really like that song.

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    MorganBell
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    Y’know, I kinda wonder if they regret putting certain songs on a record after they release it. The reason I say this being, they haven’t played Tear it Down or Shotgun on this tour. I remember talking to Britt forever ago about Out Go The Lights, and he said they couldn’t make it work live so they didn’t play it, which is both a shame and understandable. The guitar parts in the recording are very deliberate and would be hard to synchronize and sing. However, Shotgun and Tear It Down aren’t terribly complex songs, especially compared to Pink Up which is a regular song on the set. I think every other record I’ve heard them tour, they’ve played every track at least once. I don’t think they’ll attempt these two. They are the weaker tracks on the record, in my opinion, but still good songs with singability. Just food for thought.

    Also, First Caress is one of my favorite songs on the new album. I’ve heard them play it on this tour, and I sounded great, so I’m not sure why they don’t still play it. Did they say they weren’t playing it anymore? That’d be a shame. I think the only track I’ve heard them do, that I honestly didn’t think translated live, was New York Kiss. The mix just didn’t work.

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  10. Tyler Darling
    Tyler Darling
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    I wouldn’t say they regret making a song, I think some just translate better live. There are some songs that just sound great on a record. That’s one of the things I love about them is it’s a out the record first and foremost. They put great effort into the live show, but the record comes first. I love Out Go the Lights and I saw the Light off Transference but they either played live only a few times or not at all.

    Some bands write songs to play live which also isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but a live show no matter how great is fleeting. One night of your life. But a record is forever , and man they just don’t make bad records.

    I agree with you on a mix not working live here or there, I think that could be said for a few songs by them. Anytime I played live with a band you listen to the recordings of songs I made and a band learns them. Even if the people in band play on a record, sometimes it’s really hard to recreate a recording live. I have always found that to be the case. To match guitar tones or drum sounds, it can be pretty difficult, even if it doesn’t sound like it or make sense.

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    iamthekey
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    Tear It Down is such a great song and is so much needed in this current political climate. I sure hope they start to play it live!

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    iamthekey
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    I know Britt is on record as saying he doesn't care much for Sister Jack so I think as an artist he gets way too close to the material. That song kicks so much ass and the recording is so perfect! Its a shame he can't enjoy it.

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    MorganBell
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    Agreed. I love Sister Jack. It’s as close as Britt has come to writing in that Tom Petty, early Wilco vein of rock. It does stick out a bit in a he catalog, but I think it just shows Britts adeptness as a songwriter. I remember the boys talked about it not working out with Joe Chiccarelli in the studio because he was putting too much pressure on making a hit record instead of just letting it develop into its own piece of art (which I think why it may have turned out to be such a strong record), and I think that may be part of Britts aversion to Sister Jack. It’s just such a simple, catchy, radio friendly tune. Maybe he was trying to write a hit and ended up resentful of the tune. If there are 2 things I know about Britt Daniel it’s: he knows what it takes to write a catchy pop song, and he wants his music to leave an artistic legacy. He’s a wickedly smart songwriter. I have to admit, though. I love it when he writes those catchy pop songs. I could listen to Let Me Be Mine and They Want My Soul on repeat all day long. That’s all just speculation, though.

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