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Gimme Fiction Redux - (New Sequence)

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  • Started 6 years ago by Tyler Darling
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  1. Tyler Darling
    Tyler Darling
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    As I mentioned in a previous post I wanted to make a new sequence for Gimme Ficiton, just for fun. There was a rumor (to make me wonder) about playing Gimme Fiction backwards saying that sequence worked, and "The Beast and Dragon Adored" was a great closer since it had lyrical ties to many other tracks. That inspired me to make up a new sequence for the record. I also think that 10 songs is perfect for most modern albums. So I removed a song "Was it You" just because I felt the song was a bit stale. It stays in the same place, lyrically and musically too long, and I thought made the album drag. I for the record do not think it is a bad song though.

    My other main gripe with the album is the closer. Merchants of Soul is just so lackluster as a closing track. I would say it's at the bottom of my list, I mean just think: Advance Cassette, Chicago at Night, Vittorio E, Black Like Me.....you get my drift....

    I did not change a lot in the beginning, besides swapping the order of Delicate Place, and Mathematical mind. I approached sequencing so it works well on vinyl too (my favorite way to listen to Spoon). So Side A Ends with Mathematical, its musical outro works well to end the side.

    Then ending the whole thing with I Summon You....I think it works so well, for many reasons really. I will get into more analysis later. For now check out the re-sequence, make a playlist, and let me know what you guys think!

    The Beast and Dragon, Adored
    Two Sides/Monsieur Valentine
    I Turn My Camera On
    The Delicate Place
    My Mathematical Mind

    Sister Jack
    Merchants of Soul
    The Infinite Pet
    They Never Got You
    I Summon You

    Posted 6 years ago #
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    I have to admit, I Summon You would've made a good closer to that album. They usually don't leave an album on a romantic note, though. I disagree with Was It You being the weak track on that album. Personally, I love that tune. It's a good head bobbing groove, with a bad ass bassline, that I love driving to. I think The Infinite Pet takes the weak link on that album, for me. Like you say, though, it's a good song, especially by the end, but if I had to cut it down to the perfect 10, that'd be the one to go. Beast and Dragon would've been good at the end, too, but I do like it at the beginning. Gives almost a Sgt. Pepper meets Glass Onion feel at the beginning. I like your running order, though. The A-side would be maybe the best sequence of songs ever put together.

    As an aside, why the fuck don't they ever play Sister Jack? Am I the only one that loves that song? It's maybe got the most Tom Petty feel of any tune they've recorded.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. Tyler Darling
    Tyler Darling
    (706 Posts)

    Well I guess it depends how you define "romantic". Spoon doesn't have any lyrical content like "hey baby, i love you girl, you love me", but they have many romantic songs. I would say that while I Summon You has some direct romantic content, referring to the subject as "My Love", it's a very traditional sense of romance. But almost all Spoon songs do.

    "New York Kiss" is probably the most romantic of any of their closing songs. Talking about a Kiss reminds him, and makes him obsess over where he was etc.

    Plastic Mylar and Advance Cassette have direct romantic lyrics. Chicago at Night, Vittorio E, and Black Like Me do as well, just more indirect. And I think "Nobody Gets Me But You" is referring to a relationship,and how people connect, whether romantic or not, you can decide.

    As far as cutting "Was it You" that was just my opinion. I think, Infinite Pet, Was it You, and Merchants of Soul are the weakest on the album. I was very close to cutting Infinte Pet, but it was featured in a movie soundtrack, so people might know it ? (maybe.). Every other song is literally perfect to me. So for the reasons I said before, Was it You, just being a bit too one note, made me cut it. And I wanted to get it to 10 songs, for the sense of a "complete feel".

    But again, this is just my opinions, and just fun to hypothesize about. I just think in comparison Merchants of Soul feels so weird as a closer compared to the rest of their albums. I Summon you fits so well, even the literal lyrical content of "goodbye, goodbye" at the end.

    At the end of the day, "jus sayin"

    AS far as Sister Jack is concerned, I have no idea why they don't play live more. I know they go back and forth on that song, hearing they never play it, then sometimes do. It is a fun song, and love the outro at the end.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. I think it definitely should've had Carryout Kids on it. I’d replace They Never Got You with Carryout Kids. I think it's such a strong song and I've always been amazed that it wasn't included on the record. Sometimes, you get a great song that just doesn't fit anywhere, but I think it would fit beautifully on Gimme Fiction. (I know that They Never Got You is basically Remember, but that doesn’t bother me like Shotgun/I Was Made For Loving You.)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. Tyler Darling
    Tyler Darling
    (706 Posts)

    Wow i honestly never made the connection to Remember off of plastic ono band until now. I love both songs. Yeah I can def feel the influence a bit. I have always loved the abrupt ending on Remember.

    Posted 6 years ago #
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    Holy shit thanks for that shotgun connection. thats crazy!

    To be fair I think they never got you has a lot of difference both lyrically and in the arrangement that makes it different enough from Remember. shotgun is.... well way too similar to this kiss song.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. Tyler Darling
    Tyler Darling
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    Its similar but it doesnt ruin it for me or anything. I always enjoy finding musical bits pulled from artists inspiration.

    But that's just me, I am also a Noel Gallagher fan

    Posted 6 years ago #

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